Posts tagged balancing dependence and independence

best advice people

So.

Getting advice is tricky.

Ok.

Getting the best advice is tricky. You cannot get ‘best advice’ from anyone.

Have you ever noticed that the people who give the best advice typically don’t talk too much about themselves?

It makes you wonder a little.

Where did such knowledge to give advice come from?

Here is what I believe.

The people who give the best advice have been through the most.

They may not talk about it any other way than in the advice that they give.

Their silence with regard to themselves speaks volumes.

Inside there is lots of ‘stuff.’

And by stuff I mean knowledge, wisdom <in some form or fashion>, experiences and … well … a nice ability to take all that stuff inside them and look at you … and understand … and articulate it.

Now.

That’s a lot of ‘stuff.’

They not only have the ability to see within the circumstances but their own experiences to match up.

Think about that one for just a second.

That means they have such a broad experience base they can relate to a broad group of circumstances.

THAT means they have been through more than you.

Yeah.

Think about that for a bit.

Because I am not sure we do … because, frankly, we are too busy getting the well needed advice.

And we think about it even less because I believe people who give great advice tend to be broader in their thinking and have an innate sense of curiosity which is a deceptively positive cloak for their own experiences.

A cloak that looks an awful like … I don’t know … wisdom?

But.

The wisdom needs to come from somewhere.

All that said.

At some point … they may not need advice … but they may need someone to listen.

Maybe not.

But maybe.

All I know for sure is that the people who give the best advice tend to have been the ones who have experienced the most.

friendly advice

So.

Getting advice from friends.

I just saw a great friend the other day at lunch that I hadn’t seen in quite some time and he did what he does best as my friend … gave great advice.

You know.

We all have one of those friends.

Not all. One. If you are really lucky maybe two or a few.

Friends are difficult to describe and instead of different words we are often stuck with simple silly adjectives.

Close friend. Best friend. Childhood friend. Intimate friend. Trusted friend. Beloved friend.

Whatever adjective or different word it is difficult to deny the infiniteness of that simple word – friend.

Friends are special people.

I know we have all read that “we can’t pick our family” but we can pick our friends.

Its funny.

I sometimes believe they actually pick us more than we pick them. And that is even more so over time. Anyway.

We typically select a single companion to marry or live with.

But our friends are as diverse and infinite as we choose.

In the end? Our friends often reflect the choices we make in life.

So.

Advice and my friend.

Shit.

It’s funny (in a good way).

You probably have this friend too.

There is that one great friend who gives the best advice. Always.

That one friend we always have tends to be slightly fearless (knowing at worst they get hit but there will always be a beer & wings occasion in the future).

They tend to know what you like and dislike better than anyone else (the good and the bad).

And they tend to be intellectually a peer (so you use similar words and thinking process).

And when you find that one who fulfills all those?

You listen.

Because it takes some balls to ask some of the questions they do to offer the advice that they do.

And you have to recognize that …. and appreciate it … or you end up missing the advice that counts.

The words that make an impact. The things that actually give you a ‘plan’.

This type of friend and friendship is … well … typically a little different than some of your others.

There is something so incredibly easy and difficult about this kind of friendship (and maybe that’s why we’ve been friends for so long).

I know this friend is a great complimentary to me. And there are probably a million reasons for this but loyal, strong soul, responsible, ethical, just … well … ‘true’ as a human and, of course, fun, and is one of the absolute nicest people I know.

Whenever I need advice it seems like I eventually get around to this friend.

Always tells it like it is even if sometimes the advice is the last thing I want to hear (although it is rarely something I don’t really know I am just not sure I want to hear it outside my own head) and, in the end, it helps me be a better person for it.

Best friend?

Shit. I don’t know.

Best friend for talking and thinking and advice? Maybe.

And that, my friends, is a special thing to have.

Because most of us have the tendency to avoid truth telling in meaningful relationships and that includes great friendships (for some seemingly good reasons) but then I imagine if you look at them with some scrutiny you would find they lack an aspect of truth (which isn’t always bad it just is).

Candor is a tricky and challenging things. It takes character. It takes a lot of mutual respect.

And unfortunately the truth of the matter is that the words chosen matter. And matter a lot.

And I also imagine when you stack all those things up that is why the great advice (offered and accepted) is such a challenge even among friends.

I do know I am fortunate to have a varied group of friends who share similar values in authenticity and life and ethics.

But.

Just as when I used the adjectives above … varied means just that. Everyone is distinct and fulfills an aspect that reflects who they are (themselves) and who they are (to me).

Anyway.

I started this with the thought I DO have one of those great friends who can give great advice.

And it may be as simple as by listening to them I actually start listening to myself.

Aw. Who knows?

All I know is that I have great friends and among them I know I have one who gives great advice.

Best friend?

Cheapens the relationship I believe by trying to put a label on such a thing.

How about someone who recognizes what is best for me?

That may be a good enough “adjective” to attach to ‘friend.’

Yup.

I am a pretty lucky guy.

things i have learned about marriage (even though I’m not)


So.

First.

Why am I writing this?

Well. In that warped way I collect thoughts and ideas and learning I came across two items about marriage almost simultaneously as I was reading different things searching for an insightful piece of information for something I was writing. One was on a blog (and I included the entire fabulous little write up below) and the other was in Tennis magazine (whew. Talk about piecing together some random pieces of information). But when one dropped on top of the other and both captured a really nice thought about marriages and long relationships I started to write.

Second.

All my married best friends are in rock solid marriages. And I guess I should include my sister also.

Rock solid. Okay. Sure. All of them have had some ups & downs and several had what I would call a ‘trial rocky’ period. And I cannot find one true similarity between all of them (excepting me and I will not be claiming any cause & effect relationship in this situation). All have their own unique balance and are rock solid. I am lucky to have them as friends.

And then.

I read the blog post below and it really does seem to make the whole dating game seem worth it.

The realities of “you are no picnic to be living with either” is a kind of stunning reminder of how difficult it is to share space with someone else who you may adore and love but drive you frickin’ crazy at the exact same time.

Some people have this crazy fairytale idea of what marriage is or should be and while I certainly won’t suggest it isn’t easy I also won’t suggest it isn’t really “work.” Oftentimes it is just keep things in perspective.

It is really easy to lose sight of all the little aggravating things we do that can be annoying to others and rather focus instead on the other’s “dirty sock” (or whatever) issue.

It truly can be a huge pain in the ass to live with another human being.

Squeezing toothpaste from the end or the middle. Not wiping off the counter if dripped something. The load of laundry that is sitting there that could have been started at any time as they walked by.

All need to be balanced by the amount of times maybe they have made you laugh when you were ready to cry. The random act of the romantic that does remind you that they care despite all the crap going on.

Anyway. whatever those things are that are good to balance the “bad.”

Sure.

I imagine we would all like the little things to be perfect because they all feel like little aggravations that we don’t need. And the little aggravations can become “personal” very very fast. Like. ‘I have told them a hundred times so they must know it is important to me but they don’t do anything about it.’

Anyway.

I imagine my friends in long term marriages have mastered balancing the ‘unimportant imperfections’ of their partner.

It doesn’t mean the little stuff isn’t important. It just means that some little stuff is just that – little.

Well.

And then there is the really big stuff. (this is where Tennis magazine comes in)

So. Kim Clijsters had retired to raise a family. She then unretired (and here is where all this marriage stuff comes into play).

Here are some quotes from her husband (a successful European pro basketball player):

“The most important thing I had to know was whether she really meant it or not (the unretiring and playing again) and when I realized that it was something she really wanted to do it was the easiest decision of my life to say, absolutely, I am 100% behind you to do it.”

Next.

So Clijsters (a really good player by the way) is making a pretty improbable run at the US Open maybe a month after she had unretired and her husband is with the kid in the stands:
“all I did was keep quiet. I was just trying to be a good dad and a good support system. I saw the kind of work she put into this and I was just really really happy to see that happen for her.”

(just want to remind everyone here that he is a top grade athlete with an ego and ambition of his own watching someone – albeit someone he loves – being successful in her sport while he had put his own success in his own sport on hold at the time)

Ok.

I admit.

It’s that kind of stuff that makes me believe in marriage and partnership and stuff like that.

Anyway.

That Tennis magazine article and the following post made me want to write something for all my good friends who have marriages I respect and envy. Marriage is only tough I imagine if you let the little shit get in the way of the big shit.

(the blog celebrating 10 years of marriage)
It does not matter how much they love you, men, after having failed at blaming a passing bus, the cat, a shuttle launch in Houston, a dragon in the basement, a bear in the woods, they will ultimately try to blame their flatulence on you. As if.

It is as enduring as the fact that-

They will probably never learn to handle their dirty socks in the precise manner you hope that they would. Women all over the world pour their energy into their husband’s sock disposing  habits.

Inevitably, I’ve come to realize that we are all happier in this house if I just pick up the damn socks myself.

And inevitably, someone will say I just killed feminism by picking up my husband’s socks. But I’d wager that person thinks too much. Because the truth about life and the truth about marriage is that if a person leaves their crusty dried up socks on the floor, they most likely aren’t the kind of man who cares if there are dirty, crusty, vile, ass-tastic socks on the floor.  You can make this an issue for more than a decade if you want, but all you will have done is driven both of you crazy when in fact it takes 5 seconds to chuck the offending socks into the hamper. You can twist an issue every which way. You can imbue it with all sorts of bloated insinuations of how your husband does not love you/ is an inconsiderate moron who takes you for granted/ treats you terribly because you find random balls of sock about the house, but really the truth is, it’s not about you. He’s just a beastly cave man who likes to free his feet of sockdom where ever he may be.

And there is really no point in trying to change that about him. If you don’t want them on the floor, pick them up. He’ll never notice. And before you begin to believe this is because he is obviously ungrateful for all you do for him; consider this: You are no picnic to be living with either.

That’s right. I said it. Living with another human being can be a serious pain in the ass.  Especially when you’ve got that whole til death do us part thing hanging over your heads. This goes beyond socks. There are parts of your life that will be hideous-miserable. There will be days you will wish you  never said I do. Days when you become your ugliest self and lash despite your better judgment. There will be days where you put Divorce Court on the tube and wonder out loud how long of a wait there is to get on the show.

But having now survived ten entire years of this, I say it warmly and with fondness.

Marriage is a funny animal. So are the humans who do their best to navigate it. But it’s not all that hard. There is a formula; It goes like this: Don’t be so worried about his G-D socks all the time. In other words, most likely the best place to look when you are mad at your spouse is at yourself. Sure you can be mad about the socks. You can harp on him about it. You can make him feel defensive. You can put negative energy between you for a pair of crusty socks. You can even keep a running list of socks you find and how each one is an assault on your being. But then you’ll get around to thinking your marriage is hopeless and so many other yards have really green grass and that you don’t have love and happiness in your life and well, that can kind of blow.

You’ve got to choose your battles, because there will be real ones that matter far more than socks. So when you find a sock on the floor,  just toss it. When you are at odds with your beloved sockless cave mate, when you feel he hasn’t listened or honored your feelings or wishes, because that is what it is almost always about beneath the laundry pile, take a deep breath and respond in the most loving way possible. This is not easy. I fail often. But I have learned how much it matters. You can get mad as hell and live that way, or you can pause to say I honor and love you. Sometimes you drive me nuts, but I am willing to see it your way. I chose you for better or worse. You will find this is magic for when such simple words are uttered the response is warm in turn. Suddenly,  old, crusty-socked beast of a jerk-face cave man really does love you after all. You will find that it is easy to allow each other the delightful luxury of growing and being the persons you inherently are.

Your cave man is truly wonderful and romantic, really. He cares about your feelings. And no, he doesn’t bring home flowers or jewelry or other lame gestures of symbolic romance, I am talking the real kind of romance. Those moments when you catch him covering you in the night when your blankets have fallen to the side or the way he still smiles as he did when you walked down the aisle all those years ago. You will wonder where the crazy kids you were somehow became this picture of him holding your daughter, walking her to school, snuggling you both on Sunday mornings.  You will find him doing odd things like picking up his dirty socks and throwing them in the hamper; you will find he has been doing it more than you gave him credit for all along.

Keep at it long enough and you realize that for better and for worse, you’re pretty much living happily ever after, you know, if you dim the lights and use a soft focus.

It’s a good life, and you’re surviving it. It doesn’t get much better than that.

( Happy Anniversary, Michael. I love you. All the time always, and your dirty socks too. )

There you go.

All said and done I tend to believe this woman’s blog post couldn’t say what is great about marriage any better.

Congrats to all of you happily married.

You are part of the lucky ones in life.

separate but one

“… be as separate as the fingers, yet one as the hand in all things essential to mutual progress.”

Booker Washington

Ok.

I am going to take this awesome quote and talk about two things: business and personal.

Business.

Whenever anyone asks me about “integration” this is the quote I use.

We talk so often of “staying on strategy” or “meeting objectives”.

Why? Because there is so much everyday other shit going on you worry about losing control. So you have one of two choices. Leverage off of something (strategy) or aim for something (objective).

That’s it. Let’s call it vectoring for success. Okay. Let’s not.

And you have to choose because today everyone is “integrating.” What I mean is everybody is seeking to implement a shitload of tactics in a shitload of different vehicles and it can all go to shit really really fast.

Ok. So you are on your ‘vector.’

You have one of two choices (in general).

Create chemistry through conflict management (think dictator insuring all the fingers stay on one hand or get chopped off if they start flipping you off). This hand can punch a bunch of people along the way but just as a boxer ages over time your career as a conflict hand organization will wear out in a relatively short time.

And then there are hands that face conflict with chemistry. Create a culture that thrives on that vector. (whenever I type that word I want to ask “what’s your vector? Victor” … anyway …) this one is a little scary because it contains that evil word “decentralization.”

Uh oh.

Great organizational chemistry almost always has a thread of some autonomy. But great organizational chemistry embodies the quote also. So. Choose your path. But if you like the quote you know which way to go now.

Personal.

Whenever someone asks me about what makes a great relationship this is the quote I use.

I believe being one while remaining two is the greatest thing that can ever happen in any relationship.

‘To be one yet remain two’ is the way I believe I have heard it said before. But Booker says it better.

I would imagine this means a balance between independence and dependence.

Uhm.

Yes. Dependence.

Being dependent isn’t a bad thing on occasion. In individual moments we all need someone. If we don’t … well… I would argue you aren’t human.

But having some independence keeps the partnership healthy and growing. And actually keeps the “ones” stronger as ‘ones’ so when they become ‘two’ they actually have strength far beyond the numbers. (I think Pythagoras proved this in his third marriage).

less than zero

So. I saw this movie on tv. The movie is dated.

But the story is timeless. I am not sure I have ever seen a movie so aptly named.

Less than Zero.

It’s about the boundaries, or boundlessness, of friendship. About lostness. About depths of despair. About what happens when someone’s life goes lower than zero. And the helplessness in that space.

It would be really easy to watch this movie and go “aw, it’s just about spoiled rich kids.”

Don’t be silly. It’s about a kid’s downward spiral of loneliness and despair. It’s about the lostness you can find in your late tweens and early 20′s in the space between youth and adulthood. And the space between a good decision and bad decision. And how one bad decision at that age seems to gain momentum faster than at any other time in one’s life.

And it would be silly to ignore the lesson. Kids have it tough enough and if we adults ignore reminders of the toughness then, well, we are not only being silly we are being stupid.despair and alone

Less than Zero is a snapshot in a really tricky time in life. The transition from kid (or teen) to young adult. The fragility of that time. I would imagine it is also a very tricky time for parents. The choice between teaching them to stand alone or stepping up and ‘being there’ to support.

There is a heart wrenching scene about a half hour left in the movie where he begs his father for help. The words he says out loud sharing the sheer helplessness is painful.

I often talk to kids in high school about resiliency and character. But I also talk about ‘slippery slopes.” And despair is another one of those slippery slopes.

Maybe the Robert Downey character was richer and more lonely and more psychotic than most of us, but I suspect not. I suspect that he simply lacked one thing. Hope. He couldn’t just seem to find a way from ‘less than zero.’

I’m no psychologist, but I’ll bet that Julian (the Downey character) was less an addict and more a man (or young man) who had simply given up because it seemed hopeless. I would imagine most of us can certainly relate to that feeling (maybe not to that extent but have slipped close to the line on occasion).

We, each of us, see people like Julian all the time. He could be your friend. Your brother. Your coworker. Your son. We sometimes see the warning signs and we ignore them. Or we dismiss it as “teen angst,” or “he’s just having fun” or even worse “he’s not strong enough, he just needs to be tougher.”

Even those of us who have issues in our own lives sometimes see the Julians of the world and think, “not my problem.” (I know I have been plenty guilty of that myself).  I guess the shame in it all is most of the times we only see the signs and don’t know the entire story. We don’t know when they have hit the ‘less than zero’ despair. And we do nothing. And therein lays the danger of despair.

I do know that I have made this mistake myself. At far too young an age. I had a good friend who went less than zero. And never came back from there. I was maybe 24. She was 23. And I was caught up in my own life and my ‘stuff’ and just didn’t see it. Yeah. I know it wasn’t my fault. But when talking with her mother afterward in a painful discussion I did know that I could have done something. Maybe I couldn’t have gotten her out of less than zero and maybe I could have but we will never know because I never showed up to see. I think when that happens at that time in your life you don’t beat yourself up too much but you do kind of stiffen up a bit and pay attention a little more and maybe make sure you “show up.” To do something.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)

So the next time you come across someone like Julian resist the temptation to look down upon him. For while you may see that person as immature, a weirdo or possibly just ‘weak’ I can tell you for a fact that all of us have felt that despair at some time or another. They may actually be an aspect of yourself you just don’t want to see.

Ok.

Several thoughts to end on. I am not sure where I heard this and I have heard it in a variety of ways but let’s stick with this version:

abyss of despair“In the darkest depths of despair remember it’s when night is the darkest that the stars are at their brightest. And it’s those stars that will lead you home. And maybe you can get more than you ever imagined when you get there because of the journey.”

And then from literature:

“There is neither happiness nor unhappiness in this world; there is only the comparison of one state with another. Only a man who has felt ultimate despair is capable of feeling ultimate bliss. It is necessary to have wished for death in order to know how good it is to live…..the sum of all human wisdom will be contained in these two words: Wait and Hope.” Alexandre Dumas (Count of Monte Cristo)

And, lastly, maybe the best thing I have ever read about despair came from The Elegance of the Hedgehog:

“Maybe that is what life is all about: there’s a lot of despair, but also the odd moment of beauty, where time is no longer the same. It’s as if strains of music within the odd moment of beauty create a sport of interlude in time, something suspended, an elsewhere that had come to us, an always within never.”

So.All that said.

I am pretty sure I have never visited that place called “less than zero.”

Yeah. I am pretty sure at some point I may have glimpsed the door leading to it. Particularly in my teen years.

And I am pretty sure we all know kids who have one foot on that slippery slope of despair or have glimpsed the slope on occasion.

Our children deserve our attention all the time but certainly when the slippery slope beckons as it seems to have a tendency to do in the teen years. Make sure you have a hand outstretched for these kids are our future.

And make sure that their future does not reside in a place called less than zero.

friends

friends_talking_on_bench

“A true friend unbosoms freely, advises justly, assists readily, adventures boldly, takes all patiently, defends courageously, and continues a friend unchangeably.”
William Penn

So.

This week I talked to two of my best friends. The conversations reminded me of this quote.

Doesn’t it seem like we all have that one friend who seems to be able to simply put their finger on whatever it is you are talking about … even though you may not be talking about “it.”

You know what I mean.

“It” is what is bothering you or nicking away at positive thoughts you have … ‘it’ is planting little seeds of doubt or despair like Johnny Appleseed roaming your mental pastures. Or maybe ‘it’ has somehow made your brain just not know what to do.

And you dance around the issue.

You just don’t want to bring it up directly.  You don’t want to be a burden.

And then there is that one friend.

That one friend who always seems to know the right thing to say. Or the times they simply listen … only to find that one word that captures exactly what you need to hear.

I also find it interesting that friend typically remains that one unshakeable friend over time. The one who no matter where life leads you will solidly remain a signpost for reason and understanding.

I sometimes fear we overlook that friend. Or possibly overlook their ability.

We should encourage and nurture their ability to venture into places only few dare to go – the soul of who we are.

Anyway. If you have a true friend like this take a moment one day and just say thanks.

And if they are the friend I am talking about they will simply shrug it off and talk about something else.

And that, my friends, is your true friend.